[Syty] RE: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
DOlivares
seravilo at netzero.net
Tue Oct 24 14:52:07 CDT 2006
Hey, Mi Paisan!
Welcome aboard the poopdeck of the Enterprise!
With that background, ever practice patent law? Car guy...? Did you ever get NIASE-certified?
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From: George Prescott
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: [Syty] RE: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
Here I am , a physicist/engineer/attorney and car guy. I thought I was all alone. George Prescott
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> 1. Re: rust (DOlivares)
> 2. Re: rust (Bullyhart at aol.com)
> 3. Re: rust (DOlivares)
> 4. Re: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 3 (Dig)
> 5. Re: Re: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 3 (Brian Dourty)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:07:42 -0500
>From: "DOlivares" <seravilo at netzero.net>
>Subject: Re: [Syty] rust
>To: "Jeffrey Smirz" <jsmirz at comcast.net>, "ken rose jr"
> <rosekendeb at hotmail.com>
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>You guys SLAY me!
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>Any good chemist (I'm merely a physicist/engineer/attorney who got better grades in chemistry) knows that NITRIC acid is "optimized" for etching ferro-metals and copper as hydrofluoric acid is used to etch glass. So-called "strong" acids refers to their relative pH at standardized concentrations... but NOT to their universal reactivity with all substances, especially concrete.
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>If I had any rust-stains on my driveway I'd go out and buy a flask of HNO3 and that Flit or Whisk or Shout or Whatever and PROVE that my solution would be as... if not more... effective and at a lower cost and with a less deleterious impact on the local environment.
>
>But who would listen...?
>
>Have it your way(s),
>
>Dr. D.O.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jeffrey Smirz
>To: ken rose jr
>Cc: syty at syty.org
>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Syty] rust
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>It's actually Whink, which is a dilute solution of hydrofluoric acid. It should perform about the same as Larry Brown's muriatic acid and Dennis Olivares' nitric acid. All 3 of these are chemically considered 'strong' acids, which is why they etch concrete as well as 'remove' rust quicker. 'Weak' acids, such as acetic (vinegar) and carbonic (generated from baking soda) will also work, but will take a lot longer and may not remove some forms of rust. ("Rust" is a common term for various iron oxides.)
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>Iron Out is sodium hydrosulfite, which generates a "middle" strength acid when dissolved in water.
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>All these acids 'remove' rust by converting it to water soluble salts. For example, the muriatic acid converts iron oxides (red-brown and insoluble) to iron chloride (colorless and soluble).
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>If I was as good a mechanic as I am a chemist, my Typhoon would be running now! I'm still fussing with that fuel pump problem I mentioned on the list way back in April!
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>Jeff
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>On Oct 11, 2006, at 7:43 PM, ken rose jr wrote:
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> Has anyone tried Wink.. Its a liquid rust remover. I use it to get the rust out of my toilet and it works better than iron out and other brands that I tried! I just squirt it on the rust stains and they vanish before your eyes like magic. The stuff is hard to find..kmart used to have it but i have not looked there lately.. Comes in a small bottle and costs around $4.00. Last time I bought it at the hardware store..Ace hardware I believe. Never tried it on concrete but I plan to cause my plow left some rust on my driveway. Hope this helps!!!
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:27:00 EDT
>From: Bullyhart at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Syty] rust
>To: seravilo at netzero.net, jsmirz at comcast.net, rosekendeb at hotmail.com
>Cc: syty at syty.org
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>WHAT?!?!! And all this time I was under the misconception you had a PhD in
>Coloproctology...
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>In a message dated 10/23/2006 2:09:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>seravilo at netzero.net writes:
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>You guys SLAY me!
>
>Any good chemist (I'm merely a physicist/engineer/attorney who got better
>grades in chemistry) knows that NITRIC acid is "optimized" for etching
>ferro-metals and copper as hydrofluoric acid is used to etch glass. So-called
>"strong" acids refers to their relative pH at standardized concentrations... but
>NOT to their universal reactivity with all substances, especially concrete.
>
>If I had any rust-stains on my driveway I'd go out and buy a flask of HNO3
>and that Flit or Whisk or Shout or Whatever and PROVE that my solution would
>be as... if not more... effective and at a lower cost and with a less
>deleterious impact on the local environment.
>
>But who would listen...?
>
>Have it your way(s),
>
>Dr. D.O.
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>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:31:57 -0500
>From: "DOlivares" <seravilo at netzero.net>
>Subject: Re: [Syty] rust
>To: <Bullyhart at aol.com>, <jsmirz at comcast.net>,
> <rosekendeb at hotmail.com>
>Cc: syty at syty.org
>Message-ID: <00ee01c6f6e2$4a9972d0$63f85a42 at coresys1>
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>Still at it eh, laughing boy!
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>Better the credential than the OBJECT of said credential, as you appear to be!!
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>Remind me never to give you an exam ...with anything less than a harpoon!
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>Dr. Colopro
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bullyhart at aol.com
>To: seravilo at netzero.net ; jsmirz at comcast.net ; rosekendeb at hotmail.com
>Cc: syty at syty.org
>Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [Syty] rust
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>WHAT?!?!! And all this time I was under the misconception you had a PhD in Coloproctology...
>
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>In a message dated 10/23/2006 2:09:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, seravilo at netzero.net writes:
> You guys SLAY me!
>
> Any good chemist (I'm merely a physicist/engineer/attorney who got better grades in chemistry) knows that NITRIC acid is "optimized" for etching ferro-metals and copper as hydrofluoric acid is used to etch glass. So-called "strong" acids refers to their relative pH at standardized concentrations... but NOT to their universal reactivity with all substances, especially concrete.
>
> If I had any rust-stains on my driveway I'd go out and buy a flask of HNO3 and that Flit or Whisk or Shout or Whatever and PROVE that my solution would be as... if not more... effective and at a lower cost and with a less deleterious impact on the local environment.
>
> But who would listen...?
>
> Have it your way(s),
>
> Dr. D.O.
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Dig <turbodig at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Syty] Re: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 3
>To: syty at syty.org
>Message-ID: <20061024144736.27720.qmail at web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>If you're looking for just a good "replacement" pump, the 190 l/hr walbro is a good one:
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>http://www.apeusa.com/
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>FPG001
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>Can't beat the price, and the quality exceeds the stockers.
>
>Ron's a Sy/Ty "old-timer" too, so he understands the application.
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>Later,
>
>Dig
>turbodig[at]yahoo.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeffrey Smirz
> To: syty at syty.org
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:03 PM
> Subject: [Syty] Fuel Pump
>
>
> The Ty's OEM pump is down to about 25 psi. The poor thing barely runs. I'm pumping and pulling the tank tomorrow. There was a lot of talk about Walbros in Feb. '05, but I'm not planning on racing, except the occasional stoplight Grand Prix. I'm leaning towards a Bosch replacement pump. Advice is welcome.....particularly if it comes from the one and only serovilo, grtyphoon, bullyhart, merk1993 or any of the other great contributors.
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> Jeff
> Syclone #950 (totaled in '99)
> Syclone #1654 (formerly Chris Pearson's)
> Typhoon #1165
> Indy, IN
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>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:06:43 -0500
>From: Brian Dourty <dourtyb at got-boost.net>
>Subject: Re: [Syty] Re: Syty Digest, Vol 19, Issue 3
>To: Dig <turbodig at yahoo.com>
>Cc: syty at syty.org
>Message-ID: <453E2C03.20805 at got-boost.net>
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>While we are talking about fuel pumps...how hard would it be to fab up a
>double pumper setup? What would be needed?
>
>Stock sending unit.
>2 255 l/hr walbro's
>Some sort of Y adapter to hook both pumps up to stock sending unit?
>Would it NEED to be billit?
>Relay to kick second pump on
>
>Anyone got a parts list from the old ATR double pumper?
>
>Brian
>
>Dig wrote:
> > If you're looking for just a good "replacement" pump, the 190 l/hr walbro is a good one:
> >
> > http://www.apeusa.com/
> >
> > FPG001
> >
> > Can't beat the price, and the quality exceeds the stockers.
> >
> > Ron's a Sy/Ty "old-timer" too, so he understands the application.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Dig
> > turbodig[at]yahoo.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeffrey Smirz
> > To: syty at syty.org
> > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:03 PM
> > Subject: [Syty] Fuel Pump
> >
> >
> > The Ty's OEM pump is down to about 25 psi. The poor thing barely runs. I'm pumping and pulling the tank tomorrow. There was a lot of talk about Walbros in Feb. '05, but I'm not planning on racing, except the occasional stoplight Grand Prix. I'm leaning towards a Bosch replacement pump. Advice is welcome.....particularly if it comes from the one and only serovilo, grtyphoon, bullyhart, merk1993 or any of the other great contributors.
> >
> > Jeff
> > Syclone #950 (totaled in '99)
> > Syclone #1654 (formerly Chris Pearson's)
> > Typhoon #1165
> > Indy, IN
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