[Syty] 700r4 trans

[DOlivares]

Ah yes,

...the bully-boy adds his "ever-useful" snorts and flatulence... didn't take long to SMOKE him outta his pen!  Cockroaches are a lot like that.  Maybe we should find him a new nickname...?

Meanwhile, Ted, et al., you have a plain selection to choose from: 

Detailed reasoned advice based on 35 years of experience and erudition

vs.

Loud-mouthed blanket-denials and hostile generalities.

You be the judge....

D.O.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daron 
  To: seravilo at netzero.net ; theodore.metzing at verizon.net 
  Cc: syty at syty.org 
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Syty] 700r4 trans


  Let me summarize... A 2800 stall is a decent compromise for a street driven truck with a reasonable horsepower goal.  Find a horsepower target and build your truck for that, not the other way around.  I mainly disagree with what dennis is "smokin,"  especially if we are talking female sheep...

  Daron



  -----Original Message-----
  From: DOlivares <seravilo at netzero.net>
  To: Ted Metzing <theodore.metzing at verizon.net>
  Cc: SYTY <syty at syty.org>
  Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 6:54 am
  Subject: Re: [Syty] 700r4 trans


  Sure... "somewhat larger" should be fine, depending on what kind of LAUNCH you're trying to achieve... and how much extra gasoline you're willing to buy if you DON'T...
    a.. drive around town in Overdrive, and 
    b.. drive around town a lot above 42mph.
  Not to mention the extra HEAT a high-stall TC will contribute when NOT driving in OD... and assuming you haven't disabled your TCC-- good for performance, bad for heat and gas mileage!

  High-stalls on the street are for kids-- much like Trix (silly Rabbit!)-- and why I opted for something under 3000rpm when I ordered my Vigilante, whose primary selling point for me was its grippy, 4x clutch area.  I wanted extra insurance that the TCC would stay locked up in spite of assorted hiccups from the motor... wanted the good gas economy above 42mph.

  So unless you're building a track-only bracket machine or like harsh TCC-lock-ups, don't sweat the stall speed so much.  If you are trying to smoke tires to the exclusion of much else, MATCH your stall speed to the torque peak (rpm) you've already matched your cam and intake velocity to jointly achieve....

  Smoky Ewe-Nick 
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ted Metzing 
    To: DOlivares 
    Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:42 PM
    Subject: Re: [Syty] 700r4 trans


    Thanks D.O. for your suggestions. Will the 2800 stall TC be good enough for a somewhat larger turbo in the future like a PTE setup?

    Ted

    DOlivares wrote: 
      I don't know why the Camaro version of the 700R4 would be mechanically different from the version in your Ty.  All I did to mine was...
        a.. Swap-out the TC for a Vigilante, stall = 2800rpm; 
        b.. B&M Shift-Kit (made absolutely no difference!); 
        c.. Swap-out the Pan for a deeper, air-tubed version from Derale; 
        d.. Replace all fluid with RedLine Racing Fluid; 
        e..  and fresh K&N Filter (internal... never neglect this!) 
      No more plans till I get time to beef-up the engine more.  Transmission issues are closed for the moment... dead-reliable status already achieved!

      D.O. 
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ted Metzing 
        To: syty at syty.org 
        Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:13 PM
        Subject: [Syty] 700r4 trans


        I got a few quick questions for everybody. My friend has a 1991 Camaro
        and he's willing to sell me his 700r4 trans for like a $100. Is there
        any difference between that trans and the stock one in my 1993 Ty? If
        not, any recommendations on what upgrades to do to it (please specify
        brand names) like what torque convertor company to use and is a 3000
        stall ok, what shift kit should I use, and what trans cooler should I
        use? My Ty is pretty much stock except for minor mods like setting
        timing to 0, AFPR, re-routed intercooler lines (removing the metal lines
        for hoses), Ultimate chip, Walbro HP pump, scan tool, cap/rotor, Iridium
        NGK plugs, 8.5mm wires, etc. My Ty has 104,400 miles on it, ran best of
        13.36 @ 101 mph, 1.8? 60'. stock turbo @ 18 psi on 93 octane with a
        little knock at full throttle (not sure if false because of the
        upshifts), fuel pressure @ 54 with vac line off, 32 lb lucas green
        stripe injectors. Any and all help welcome. Hope this will create a
        little discussion out there. Thanks again.

        Ted Metzing
        93 Typhoon
        06 TBSS
        05 HD V-rod

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