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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fwiw</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually I tried Muriatic Acid (some of the bottles
called it etching fluid) in various strengths</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>without any success. I left one spot sit for
about 10 minutes, used my drill and foam pad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and after rinsing got a "dimmed spot" and a white
stain circle where no stain existed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I figure it would have taken me all summer to clean
the driveway, stairs, and sidewalk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>leaving a poka-dotted landscape...ie not too
cool. I also worried about killing plants/things around me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Had to "chase" a neighbors pet dog away who kept
wanting to drink the stuff (as it was a hot day, around noon).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Whats amazing, is that I dressed up in rubber
gloves, eye goggles, and rubber boots thinking ( & looking like
goober)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that the stuff was gonna melt the cement. It
didnt. I did have 1/2 dozen cars passing by stop</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to ask me if the stuff was working and showing
interest. Turns out, after using the Iron Out, I also had
neighbors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>asking me to do their surrounding areas....but I
declined. Maybe there`s a profession out there for me after
all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I dont know if the help at hardware stores are lame
(home depot, ace hardware, and lowes) or lazy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But only lowes carried the Iron Out and it was
hidden on a back shelf behind some dodads. Fortunately</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the sticker price was still on it so I didnt have
to have a hour long price check on aisle 5.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I remember, the stuff is kinda expensive (about
$10.00 for something that looks like a quart).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Im now watching where I apply fertilizer, as it
definitely (as with radiator fluid) stain the cement something
awful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=seravilo@netzero.net href="mailto:seravilo@netzero.net">DOlivares</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=larrybrown@prolynx.com
href="mailto:larrybrown@prolynx.com">Larry Brown</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Syty] Driveway Rust Cleaner
"Results"...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#000080 size=4>Did you ever try
NITRIC ACID?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#000080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#000080 size=4>I never could get any
reaction for this superior technique.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#000080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#000080
size=4>D.O.
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=larrybrown@prolynx.com href="mailto:larrybrown@prolynx.com">Larry
Brown</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=syty@syty.org
href="mailto:syty@syty.org">syty@syty.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Syty] Driveway Rust Cleaner "Results"...</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Okay Thanks to all who responded to my original
driveway cleaner inquiry on rust removal...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And the winner is.....IRON OUT....<hands
down>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I bought almost every product that the group
recommended. Tried using each with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a brush, steelwool, brillow pad, broom and drill
with foam pad. With Iron Out, I found that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>by mildly diluting, and using a broom, the
stains were removed and only a minimum amount</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of white reside remained after
rinsing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since Im on a corner lot, and the sidewalks,
driveway, and steps all were spotted,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it took 3 bottles of Iron Out to do the
job. And strangely, Home Depot didnt have it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but Lowes did. In fact, none of the clerks
at either store had any idea of what to use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did not want to kill the wife`s flowers (or
poison the neighbors dogs/cats) or ruin the lawn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so I used rather sparingly. And while I`ve
seen people discarding crap via curbside gutters,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tend to be rather prudent (thinking the
downhill neighbors would not appreciate toxic waste</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in their surrounding). So it took awhile to
test and report back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to all who responded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry Brown</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=jsmirz@comcast.net href="mailto:jsmirz@comcast.net">Jeffrey
Smirz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=turbodig@yahoo.com
href="mailto:turbodig@yahoo.com">Dig</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=syty@syty.org
href="mailto:syty@syty.org">syty@syty.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:53
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Syty] Re: Syty Digest,
Vol 19, Issue 1</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I recommended Iron Out to him. It'll take the rust out
and not harm the concrete.<BR>
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<DIV>On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Dig wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Didja try CLR?</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The scrub/rinse cycle with Muriatic has worked
for me in the past. You don't want to leave it there long, though.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Dig</DIV>
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</SPAN>From: <A
href="mailto:syty-bounces@syty.org">syty-bounces@syty.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:syty-bounces@syty.org">mailto:syty-bounces@syty.org</A>] On
Behalf Of Larry Brown</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>To: SyTy List</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Subject: [Syty] Anyone remove concrete rust?</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Anyone:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>...I`m told there is nothing that removes concrete rust.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Unfortunately my driveway has poka-dots and household cleaners do
nothing</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>or worse make white bleach stains (and leave the original
rust).</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Even tried a drill pad to work in different solutions, with no
help.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>thought I`d ask</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Larry</DIV>
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